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i'd worked at fox before i came to npr. and, you know, jon... >> jon: you thought you had proved to them at some level that you were not a bigot. >> i didn't think i needed to prove it. i've written... i wrote "eyes on the prize." i've win the well-received biography of justice marshall, the first african american on the court. i didn't think i needed to prove to anybody who i am. but i was stunned that they would... i said did you guys look at the entirety of the transcript? do you understand what's going on here? that i'm, in fact, challenging bill o'reilly. that i'm trying to say we need to affirm the idea that america's a place of religious tolerance even as america deals with what is the real anxiety over the link between arab extremism and terrorism. we have to acknowledge it. and to just say oh, it doesn't exist, can't say that, only allows those feelings to fester and then you have eruptions and people do wild and crazy things, awful things. did you hear this? no, nothing you can say, we don't want you to come in, w
i'd worked at fox before i came to npr. and, you know, jon... >> jon: you thought you had proved to them at some level that you were not a bigot. >> i didn't think i needed to prove it. i've written... i wrote "eyes on the prize." i've win the well-received biography of justice marshall, the first african american on the court. i didn't think i needed to prove to anybody who i am. but i was stunned that they would... i said did you guys look at the entirety of the...
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he will join us in a moment to talk about his new book on npr. ladies are in washington this evening. were you offended by the "new york times" highlighting the word christian in its headline? mary katharine. >> yeah. look. i think it's a problem. first of all i'm a political animal but i try very hard in these instances not to immediately jump on a hobby horse and figure out where i can ride it immediately in the aftermath of a strategy like this. i think a lot of other people would do good to do that as well. the "new york times" many liberal activists, certainly desperately want an analog to extremist islam pat themselves on the back for being equal and making this equivalence. you know what? a lot of times the term use in order guy and if you read his writings it's certainly not mainstream fundamentalism. he talks about payingism as with many crazy people it goes down a rabbit hole. they have been referring to him as christian fundamentalists referring to the dug garrs in arkansas christian fundamentalists. is it having lots of children that
he will join us in a moment to talk about his new book on npr. ladies are in washington this evening. were you offended by the "new york times" highlighting the word christian in its headline? mary katharine. >> yeah. look. i think it's a problem. first of all i'm a political animal but i try very hard in these instances not to immediately jump on a hobby horse and figure out where i can ride it immediately in the aftermath of a strategy like this. i think a lot of other people...
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. >> president obama still supports giving npr your tax dollar money. >> on the npr scandal, is the left wing media playing that down? >> liberals are intolerant. >> we've linked npr to soros, we know what they're doing over there. >> the corruption is so widespread it's succeeded in permeating every area of the mainstream media. >> these crackpots at npr. >> the totalitarian tactics of the left. >> is npr an agent somehow of a jihadist inquisition. (laughter and applause) >> jon: is npr an agent somehow of a jihadist inquisition? i'm going say yes because why else would you bring it up? (laughter) see, that is a reasonably proportioned response. this is overreaction to the murdoch case which what is at most an epic bribery and influence peddling scandal consuming britain's political law enforcement and journalistic establishment is really a waste of everyone's time. (laughter) you know, i know what the problem, is you're jealous. as a newscorp property, you're not upset that your standards have been corrupted by your scandal boner ethic. you're upset they get to have the fun while you g
. >> president obama still supports giving npr your tax dollar money. >> on the npr scandal, is the left wing media playing that down? >> liberals are intolerant. >> we've linked npr to soros, we know what they're doing over there. >> the corruption is so widespread it's succeeded in permeating every area of the mainstream media. >> these crackpots at npr. >> the totalitarian tactics of the left. >> is npr an agent somehow of a jihadist...
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. >> stephen: now you are the host of npr's "on the media." and you are also the author of the new book "the influencing machine: brooke gladstone on the media." what is the influence magazine? is it this? >> yes, actually, it is. >> stephen: i am a member of the media? >> you are part of the influence magazine. except that there is no influencing machine. this it too is what i want to fight: the popular notion that the media are controlling our minds. it's really a mirror. what? no, i have control! i have control. clap for me, my monkeys. (cheers and applause) i believe the words you ear looking for "check and mate." (laughter) what do you mean? the media does not have... but that's everything that i shear that the media has control over the minds of its audience. we're all being brainwashed. >> well, the media are reflecting everything that we are as a people and as a civilization. and some of that is pretty disgusting. some of that is pretty shallow. some of that is trivial. some of it is frivolous and some of it is just plain mendacious. >
. >> stephen: now you are the host of npr's "on the media." and you are also the author of the new book "the influencing machine: brooke gladstone on the media." what is the influence magazine? is it this? >> yes, actually, it is. >> stephen: i am a member of the media? >> you are part of the influence magazine. except that there is no influencing machine. this it too is what i want to fight: the popular notion that the media are controlling our...
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he once told npr, i don't want to abolish government, i want to reduce it to the size where i can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub. andrea mitchell, nbc news, washington. >>> up next, the royal wedding dress and the princess who wore it. great britain's new crown jewel. >>> if you were left off the guest list of the royal wedding earlier this year, this could be the next best thing, a chance to check out the dress worn by kate middleton, the royal family's newest, brightest star. >> reporter: her moment of royal glory, kate's official arrival on the global stage. her dress was the other star of the show. today at buckingham palace, crowds waited for hours for a closeup look at a new display opening today. last week the queen and the new duchess got a sneak preview but didn't quite have the planned reaction. >> horrible isn't it? >> reporter: without kate in it, the dress appears ghost-like. still half a million fans are expected. >> she seems very sweet and she's very pretty, and she seems very nice. >> kate's memorabilia will raise millions for the monarchy, turni
he once told npr, i don't want to abolish government, i want to reduce it to the size where i can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub. andrea mitchell, nbc news, washington. >>> up next, the royal wedding dress and the princess who wore it. great britain's new crown jewel. >>> if you were left off the guest list of the royal wedding earlier this year, this could be the next best thing, a chance to check out the dress worn by kate middleton, the royal family's...
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shields yields the balance of his time to the gentleman from npr -- gentlewoman from npr. [laughter] >> i think mr. shields is right. you need the democrats to get a deal in the senate. there are 80 republicans in the house who say they will not sign anything that has any tax in eight. the democrats -- you really have to have a combination of taxes and cuts in order to get it passed either body and you have to move to the floor and pass a filibuster in the senate. >>, cut, cap and balance -- tea party folks love the idea of a constitutional amendment at what point does reality come to these people, because we know it is not going to happen? >> i love how you objectively pose the question. this is a fair and balanced program -- >> we do our best. we don't have the resources of were rupert murdoch -- -- [laughter] >> i think if this were a less heated environment, cutting and capping is a good idea. the budget and then it is a problem. i have a problem with it. -- the balanced budget amendment is a problem. i have a problem with it. but joe biden, who is a democrat, supporte
shields yields the balance of his time to the gentleman from npr -- gentlewoman from npr. [laughter] >> i think mr. shields is right. you need the democrats to get a deal in the senate. there are 80 republicans in the house who say they will not sign anything that has any tax in eight. the democrats -- you really have to have a combination of taxes and cuts in order to get it passed either body and you have to move to the floor and pass a filibuster in the senate. >>, cut, cap and...
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npr's louisa lim said it's crude, tasteless, and comes off as pro murdoch propaganda. and on this side of the ocean, it seems like the united states is indeed investigating claims of news corp. repeatedly hacking one of its rivals. >>> joining me now, michael isikoff. michael, what is the latest in terms of the investigation that's going on here in the states? >> well, the new development is this company in new jersey, floor graphics, which is an advertising firm that does floor graphics for safeway and stores like that, had been a rival of news america, which was the advertising division of news corp. and back in 2003 and 2004, it discovered that its password protected computer system had been hacked and traced it to an ip address at news america, its competitor. they reported this to the fbi at the time, to the u.s. attorney's office, then headed by chris christie in new jersey, and the new jersey state police. nothing came of those. but these allegations were a central part of a lawsuit that floor graphics filed against news america, and that was settled with a $29
npr's louisa lim said it's crude, tasteless, and comes off as pro murdoch propaganda. and on this side of the ocean, it seems like the united states is indeed investigating claims of news corp. repeatedly hacking one of its rivals. >>> joining me now, michael isikoff. michael, what is the latest in terms of the investigation that's going on here in the states? >> well, the new development is this company in new jersey, floor graphics, which is an advertising firm that does floor...
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let me play for you what he said on npr himself today. >> we have to make tough decisions on things like defense spending el arizona well as domestic spending but we also have to have more revenues. with that acknowledgement that we need a balanced approach, that republican leaders on capitol hill are going to be willing to engage in the kind of compromise that can resolve this problem. >> mr. steele, a balanced approach, we've got to have some revenues. republicans have got to be willing to compromise. >> yeah. >> i mean, can your party get it together and understand that they cannot put it all on grandma's back? >> well, yes and they're not. and i think to dana's point, the interesting thing about what the clip you just played of the president, is that he wasn't necessarily talking about right now. remember, there is now washington has come to the conclusion that this is going to be a two-step process. the first is to get something done by august 2nd and the second piece will get into the real deep substance of what the longer term effort is going to be. i think this is a very interest
let me play for you what he said on npr himself today. >> we have to make tough decisions on things like defense spending el arizona well as domestic spending but we also have to have more revenues. with that acknowledgement that we need a balanced approach, that republican leaders on capitol hill are going to be willing to engage in the kind of compromise that can resolve this problem. >> mr. steele, a balanced approach, we've got to have some revenues. republicans have got to be...
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i think npr can function just fine on its own. that would be nearly $1 billion a year, $10 billion over a decade, if we just cut out those two programs. there many places we could cut that we're spending on programs that we do not need, wasteful programs. when the gao cn find $200 billion in cuts, that a significant. host: in your view, what is the proper role of government? guest: xiii, the government is ordained by god. punish those who do evil and reward those which is right. the government should be maintaining law and order and to be fostering a society in which exemplary behavior is rewarded and less than exemplary behavior is not. and there's a moral symmetry to the society. i think government and the country as wealthy as ours, we should be looking out for the welfare and health of the people within the ability of the government and the ability of the country to pay we cannot do everything. that is part of the problem. washington has been tried to do everything. they have been kicking the can down the road. now we've reach
i think npr can function just fine on its own. that would be nearly $1 billion a year, $10 billion over a decade, if we just cut out those two programs. there many places we could cut that we're spending on programs that we do not need, wasteful programs. when the gao cn find $200 billion in cuts, that a significant. host: in your view, what is the proper role of government? guest: xiii, the government is ordained by god. punish those who do evil and reward those which is right. the government...
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chris s the president, you know, he's had interviews with npr, today he was in maryland at this university. is the president signaling that he may be getting close to agreeing to a deal that would raise this debt ceiling and that would have no tax hikes in it? >> reporter: well, he'll have to give his base something. he can't expect them to walk into this without even a symbolic tax increase. but, yes, obviously, what's happening now is the president is trying to soften the blow for his supporters being in a deep blue, very liberal state like maryland, being on a college campus be, rallying supporters in if a campaign-style event and, as you said, going on national public radio. these are all efforts on the president's part to reach out to liberals and say, look, i don't want to do a deal like this, but i have no choice so please understand me as i have to do this. martha: all right. we've got another piece of sound we want to play for everybody in relation to this. >> in order for us to solve the debt deficit problems, we've got to cut spending that we don't need, we have to eliminate pro
chris s the president, you know, he's had interviews with npr, today he was in maryland at this university. is the president signaling that he may be getting close to agreeing to a deal that would raise this debt ceiling and that would have no tax hikes in it? >> reporter: well, he'll have to give his base something. he can't expect them to walk into this without even a symbolic tax increase. but, yes, obviously, what's happening now is the president is trying to soften the blow for his...
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because there are so view african-americans working at npr. she went on to say she has been treated much better by fox news folks. that's a brave statement. obviously she is angry with npr for mistreating her husband but gets specific on assessment. we believe mrs. williams is a patriot. juan will be here monday he has a new book about his experience at npr. looking forward to that. >> check out the fox news factor website. talking points memo each evening right there we would like you to spout off about the factor. oreilly@foxnews.com. name and town if you wish to opine. word of the day, do not be a barbermonger, when writing to the factor. again, thanks for watching. i am bill o'reilly. please always remember that the spin stops right here, because we are definitely looking out for you.
because there are so view african-americans working at npr. she went on to say she has been treated much better by fox news folks. that's a brave statement. obviously she is angry with npr for mistreating her husband but gets specific on assessment. we believe mrs. williams is a patriot. juan will be here monday he has a new book about his experience at npr. looking forward to that. >> check out the fox news factor website. talking points memo each evening right there we would like you to...
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. >> lehrer: we get the latest on new clashes in syria from npr's deborah amos in damascus. >> the president wants to have a national dialogue, he says on july 10th. this group says nada, we are not your partners until the violence stops on the streets. >> brown: paul solman talks to the authors of a provocative new book on how fannie mae's push- for-profits helped pump up the housing bubble. >> if you are trying to enrich yourself, increase your profits, which fannie mae was absolutely determined to do then that becomes a per version of home ownership. >> lehrer: mark shields and michael gerson analyze the week's news. that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> well, the best companies are driven by new ideas. >> our future depends on new ideas. we spend billions on advanced technologies. >> it's all about investing in the future. >> we can find new energy-- more cleaner, safer and smarter. >> collaborating with the best in the field. >> chevron works with the smartest people at leading universities and tech companies. >> and yet, it'
. >> lehrer: we get the latest on new clashes in syria from npr's deborah amos in damascus. >> the president wants to have a national dialogue, he says on july 10th. this group says nada, we are not your partners until the violence stops on the streets. >> brown: paul solman talks to the authors of a provocative new book on how fannie mae's push- for-profits helped pump up the housing bubble. >> if you are trying to enrich yourself, increase your profits, which fannie...
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>> yeah. [ laughter ] i listen to -- >> jimmy: listen to npr. >> i listen to the music. like i got headphones on, i listen to my music and i'm just kind of relaxed. >> jimmy: what songs are you going out to? do you have a favorite one? >> i listen to all -- all kinds, man. >> jimmy: maybe ben e. king. maybe a little "stand by me" would be a good one. you could to that -- a little ben e. king. [ singing ] ♪ when the night >> jimmy: yeah. ♪ has come and the land is dark ♪ [ laughter ] ♪ and the moon is the only light we'll see ♪ >> jimmy: oh, come on! right there! that's what i'm talking about. [ cheers and applause ] my man, that was good. that was great! [ applause ] now when -- i got say this. the chuck liddell fight -- i have to bring it up, because this is insane. you got advice from randy couture. >> yeah. before that fight, like i'm always like nervous pervous before my fights. like, like, i wouldn't fight if i didn't get nervous. but that fight i was really nervous cause it was my first time really like stepping up to fighting a big name like chuck liddel
>> yeah. [ laughter ] i listen to -- >> jimmy: listen to npr. >> i listen to the music. like i got headphones on, i listen to my music and i'm just kind of relaxed. >> jimmy: what songs are you going out to? do you have a favorite one? >> i listen to all -- all kinds, man. >> jimmy: maybe ben e. king. maybe a little "stand by me" would be a good one. you could to that -- a little ben e. king. [ singing ] ♪ when the night >> jimmy: yeah. ♪...
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"the new york times", listen to progressive talk radio cash did -- i guess nobody does, you listen npr and you find all the facts that fit that and everybody has the data. so who is right. and so the only way to tell really the difference between these true patterns and false patterns is science. >> stephen: really? >> really. >> stephen: you think science is the answer. >> yeah, i'm not joke being that. >> stephen: you're not jock being science but isn't that just your belief? are you a skeptic, you are inclined to believe that skepticism, the scientific method is the right idea but that is so that you look for evidence out there in the world that evidence is a good thing to look for and you -- it is the periodic table element. >> so i can -- but isn't science is just another belief system. >> it is another belief system but it sets apart from all the other belief systems because it has built into it self-correcting machinery that says if you don't look for your disconfirming evidence that debunks your own belief, somebody else will, usually with great plea in a published form. >> wha
"the new york times", listen to progressive talk radio cash did -- i guess nobody does, you listen npr and you find all the facts that fit that and everybody has the data. so who is right. and so the only way to tell really the difference between these true patterns and false patterns is science. >> stephen: really? >> really. >> stephen: you think science is the answer. >> yeah, i'm not joke being that. >> stephen: you're not jock being science but isn't...
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this on top of npr and pbs. good idea? liz is an author of journalist and fox news contributor who joins us every sunday at this time with a commentary. good morning liz. >> good morning, eric. this is about bowl jerry running amuck again. lee bollinger, the drastic call leftist academic who heads columbia university who was the same man who in 2007 i brought you invitation and the person of mahmoud ahmadinejad, the president of iran. and, of course, known to everybody as a great hater of jews. so he invites him to columbia university, which caused an uproar, high jewish population of students at columbia university but, nevertheless, he was getting press sod bowl jerry proceeded and then once he got him there he insulted him which even made better copy for him. so bollinger is not shy about seeking publicity. now, his latest try is about getting a sort of b.b.c. for american. a totally government-funded news service for america. bad idea. he says it's a good idea. let me give you an example. he wrote about this in the col
this on top of npr and pbs. good idea? liz is an author of journalist and fox news contributor who joins us every sunday at this time with a commentary. good morning liz. >> good morning, eric. this is about bowl jerry running amuck again. lee bollinger, the drastic call leftist academic who heads columbia university who was the same man who in 2007 i brought you invitation and the person of mahmoud ahmadinejad, the president of iran. and, of course, known to everybody as a great hater of...
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this is defunding npr. it makes the tea party feel good, but it cannot become law. john boehner has the one option he hasn't tried. he's got to go to nancy pelosi and find votes among democrats. the final bill will not pass with 217 republicans. ba boehner, maybe he is afraid of a primary challenge, he won't go to the democratic option. th
this is defunding npr. it makes the tea party feel good, but it cannot become law. john boehner has the one option he hasn't tried. he's got to go to nancy pelosi and find votes among democrats. the final bill will not pass with 217 republicans. ba boehner, maybe he is afraid of a primary challenge, he won't go to the democratic option. th
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but as first reported by npr, taxpayers haven't faired as well. is this program a waste of taxpayer money? >> the dollar coin program is a waste of taxpayer money. i think it's time to put a halt to this experiment. >> reporter: but ending it probably requires another law from congress. until then, the mint has five years and 20 presidents to go. lisa myers, nbc news, baltimore. >>> still ahead, the big showdown in washington over the debt limit. and the president's warned of potential catastrophe. so are lawmakers any closer to a deal? >>> and a sunday surprise for those dire predictions of carmageddon in california. >>> a little more than two weeks left until the u.s. treasury reaches its legal borrowing limit and the threat of the government being unable to pay its bills looms larger tonight. nbc's mike viqueira joins us from the white house. mike? >> reporter: lester, we're 16 days from a potential financial catastrophe. by all appearances it was a quite typical weekend summer day here in washington. the first family left on foot, setting out
but as first reported by npr, taxpayers haven't faired as well. is this program a waste of taxpayer money? >> the dollar coin program is a waste of taxpayer money. i think it's time to put a halt to this experiment. >> reporter: but ending it probably requires another law from congress. until then, the mint has five years and 20 presidents to go. lisa myers, nbc news, baltimore. >>> still ahead, the big showdown in washington over the debt limit. and the president's warned...
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thanks to npr we know about loads of unused spare change piling up as the nation stares down its debt. abc's jon karl explains. >> reporter: we took a journey to the u.s. mint in philadelphia for a lesson in how the government is losing money by making money. this is the presidential dollar coin. congress ordered the mint to make millions of them to honor every dead president but nobody seems to want them. they cost 32 cents a pop to make. the mint makes nearly 2 million of them every day. do the math. about 600,000 dollars a day to make them. because almost nobody uses these things, most go directly into storage. we found a bunch of them 100 miles down the road in a vault. here at the federal reserve in baltimore, the coins are packed into plastic bags stacked one on top of each other all the way up and down this aisle several aisles of them, millions and millions of dollars in presidential coins. federal reserve says they are piling up so quickly they are spending $650,000 to build a new vault in dallas to hold them. shipping the coins there will cost another $3 million. senator jac
thanks to npr we know about loads of unused spare change piling up as the nation stares down its debt. abc's jon karl explains. >> reporter: we took a journey to the u.s. mint in philadelphia for a lesson in how the government is losing money by making money. this is the presidential dollar coin. congress ordered the mint to make millions of them to honor every dead president but nobody seems to want them. they cost 32 cents a pop to make. the mint makes nearly 2 million of them every...
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. >> he wasn't talking about npr. >> ok. all public media. that's fine. but the idea is that you believe -- >> and that's a challenge. >> corporations are a good thing. they get people to accumulate wealth and then they risk it and they create jobs, which is what they want to do and they create strong communities. but, they should not be running our government. >> we don't elect corporations, we elect corporations. and the corporations want whatever they want, but ultimately it falls to the politicians to act in our interests or against our interests. but, i want to switch the conversation for the moment from the corporate side of this to the political side of this. you indict the entire system by saying that the politicians accept this money and then seek to dismantle the protections that we all deserve. is, is politics beyond fixing as far as that goes? >> well, there are two things that you need to do to fix the politiccl system. the most important thing is to fix the citizens united case. we lost democracy in this country in the 1880s and 1890s. peopl
. >> he wasn't talking about npr. >> ok. all public media. that's fine. but the idea is that you believe -- >> and that's a challenge. >> corporations are a good thing. they get people to accumulate wealth and then they risk it and they create jobs, which is what they want to do and they create strong communities. but, they should not be running our government. >> we don't elect corporations, we elect corporations. and the corporations want whatever they want, but...
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. >> something that wasn't so good for you was your experience at npr which happens last year when you were fired. you have done a quick turn around on a book, fantastic book called "muzzled". a great title because you felt like you were muzzled in the situation there. right? >> yeah, you know, something -- again, we're talking about the budget debate this morning and i think you guys are right on target. when you say look, people are talking about -- i've got this plan, i've got that plan. here's my message to the voters. here's this message. say, you know, we don't need competing plans. we need a deal. we need people who are going to talk to each other and offer not only the ability to speak and shout and use bumper sticker slogans but actually listen to each other and then compromise and reach a deal in service to the american people. and what i've had in my experience after i got fired was so many people came up to me and said, you mean because you get nervous at airports when you see people in muslim garb after 9/11, you got fired? you know, i have a similar feeling and the people
. >> something that wasn't so good for you was your experience at npr which happens last year when you were fired. you have done a quick turn around on a book, fantastic book called "muzzled". a great title because you felt like you were muzzled in the situation there. right? >> yeah, you know, something -- again, we're talking about the budget debate this morning and i think you guys are right on target. when you say look, people are talking about -- i've got this plan,...
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we first heard about this on npr, and had no idea it was going on. here's abc's jon karl. >> reporter: we took a journey totohe heart of the u.s. mint in philadelphia. down long corridors, into oversized elevators and through doors, lots of doors, for a lesson on how to lose money while making money. it sounds a little bit like las vegas around here, except, the coins never stop coming. this is the presidential dollar coin. they're making them to honor every dead president, but nobody seems to want them. not even the one for rutherford b. hayes. rutherford b. hayes, hot off the press. literally, these coins are still warm. made of manganese brass, they cost 32 cents a pop to make. the mint can make 1.8 million a day. do the math. that's nearly $600,000 a day. because almost nobody uses these things, most go directly into storage. we found a bunch of them 100 miles down the road in a vault. here at the federal reserve in baltimore, the coins are packed into plastic bags stacked one on top of each other all the way up and down this aisle. several aisle
we first heard about this on npr, and had no idea it was going on. here's abc's jon karl. >> reporter: we took a journey totohe heart of the u.s. mint in philadelphia. down long corridors, into oversized elevators and through doors, lots of doors, for a lesson on how to lose money while making money. it sounds a little bit like las vegas around here, except, the coins never stop coming. this is the presidential dollar coin. they're making them to honor every dead president, but nobody...
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was a lovely young woman who for some reason went into radio instead of television, and she became an npr reporter, and her beat was covering this dispute that scooter libby/jude at this time miller thing. and i remember hearing one of her reports on the radio, i think it was after libby was convicted of perjury and the other fences, and she said that's what happened to louis libby. this is libby lewis reporting. [laughter] anyway, judy miller who had been subpoenaed by a grand jury that was investigating who the source of the leak of the identity of valerie plame was. valerie plame was an undercover cia agent, and her identity was leaked after her husband had debunked the administration's claim that saddam hussein was seeking nuclear material this africa. in africa. the court refused to hear the case in 2005 and left miller in jail. that was a big story because everybody had anticipated that the court would clarify and needed to clarify the extent to which reporters are able to protect their confidential sources. but in the miller case it was a disi ponte -- disappointing nondecision, ju
was a lovely young woman who for some reason went into radio instead of television, and she became an npr reporter, and her beat was covering this dispute that scooter libby/jude at this time miller thing. and i remember hearing one of her reports on the radio, i think it was after libby was convicted of perjury and the other fences, and she said that's what happened to louis libby. this is libby lewis reporting. [laughter] anyway, judy miller who had been subpoenaed by a grand jury that was...